User blog comment:HankGuideDude/Hia-logue 4(.13 for real): Hankvi Guidza and The Tipsy Timelines/@comment-16075172-20160209151215

Potential ideas concerning Havres: Some ideas more relating to SigmaTwo:
 * Havres originally had the natural ability to see into the future and past, though, upon gaining 1/10th of the Karma Fragment, his knowledge of such things extended in reach and became clearer for him to see. He uses this to his advantage in learning of many things. However, his Vision can be obscured by many things; destiny-altering, unexpected time-travel, Void magic, Chance/Chaos magic, Curse magic, "fake-futuring", etc. Havres is aware of some of these things obscuring his vision, but he knows little of how exactly to stop them from doing so; he also doesn't know about all the methods of which his vision can be obscured. If we go by the fact that he gained a tenth of the Karma Fragment after being sealed inside of the lusus, then it would be at that moment when Havres realized the potential for The Dictator to be his salvation, and thus he decided to tie his destiny in with the Dictator's. After being freed, Havres would watch from afar/from an intangible plane of existence, but would be unable to physically interfere or physically be interfered with unless summoned.
 * A sidenote: the Karma Fragment works for Havres by amplifying his powers of Vision; this may be explained by the nature of Karma Portals working through space and time slightly. If Havres were to collect more pieces of the Karma Fragment, he would be able to have more powerful Visions (meaning they can go further into the future/present/past; also more powerful Visions can overpower obscurity from some methods, based on how strong the methods are and how strong the visions are.)
 * Havres' power could perhaps rub off on the Karma Fragment after his use of it. So, any later uses of his fragment of the Karma Fragment would allow Hank/TD to have some Visions of the future or past.
 * If we go by the idea that Havres was a component for the SGRUB Gamma First Guardian, then FG-Havres wouldn't have Vision, but, rather, near-omniscience, which is pretty close either way.
 * The Dictator's kernelsprite was somehow prototyped with Havres. Due to the importance of the currently existing Havres, this would more likely be some sort of alternate-timeline version of Havres.
 * Possible theory: In a doomed timeline from the SGRUB Gamma session, Isevel decided it was best to kill Havres due to the dangers that he caused to them all. However, this made it a Doomed Timeline for the session, and many others died as an unintended result of Havres' lack of presence in the session and manipulation of TD. Afeita then used her time travel abilities to go back in time (taking Havres corpse with her) and stopped Havres from being killed. Her plan in bringing alternate-Havres' corpse back was that, if she couldn't convince the others not to kill Havres, she would prototype him and bring him back to life. She decided to prototype herself with TD's unused (?) sprite, and Havres appeared to prototype his alternate timeline corpse with it, too, thus created the Havreitasprite for TD.
 * I'm under the assumption that SGRUB Gamma is a Void Session due to it lasting for almost a year; thus the sprites wouldn't be prototyped until after entry. If not... perhaps alternate Havres' corpse/alternate God Tier Afeita fell through a Skaian Portal and was prototyped with TD's sprite prior to entry?
 * However, this could also possibly be a sprite of Havres and Naijad (Naijavressprite?), due to Naijad's relation to a Godslayer.
 * Here we could establish Havres' relationship with Hankvl Guldza, as well as Chance. Havres intends to lead TD/"Hank" down a path of evil, glory, and power as he has seen him, perhaps in serving as a sort of "chosen ancestor" for the Dictator. Havres himself also wants power and glory, and slightly intends to use TD/Hank as a tool to earn such a thing. Hankvl, however, learns of Hankvl's creation because of Hankvi, and wants to be an important part of his life due to him being a big part of Hankvl's own. Hankvl thus learns all that Hankvl can about Hankvi, and decides to do the best that can be done to improve Hankvi's life for the better. Hankvl's actions in helping Hankvi are in honor/appreciation and can be considered generous and selfless, because Hankvi thriving and being redeemed has no effect on Hankvl existing or gaining anything (unless you (HGD) actually have some sort of slightly different intentions in store for Hankvl?). So, as you can tell, Havres and Hankvl conflict in their views pretty widely. Hankvl directly tries to stop Havres from turning Hank to evil, but Havres usually just calmly acts how he wishes, believing that all things will work out as he has planned. However, the future has a way of changing for mortals... "HS 6c00ff (by Chance)", of course.
 * Havres originally foresaw a destiny that TD would lead him to rule over Alternia with the power of Karma, rename it to Etarnia, and later gain more power and control over planets, which he would share with Havres partially in return for the power and guidance Havres could offer. This was the Eta timeline, as well as Havres' likely role in it. However, HS FFF (C)HS 000 (h)HS fff (a)HS 000 (n)HS fff (c)HS 000 (e) worked to obscure Havres' knowledge of the "True Future", and changed it for TD in turn with the power. Chance was first activated and surprisingly gave TD amnesia, which Havres did not anticipate due to the nature of Chance obscuring his Vision. However, Havres would settle with this, foreseeing that the events of the Gamma Timeline would come to fruition, and that he could eventually either manipulate Hankvi through Issus/Chariel, or he could move on to manipulate Aserik by using her inner anger against TD (Possible role for Havres in Gamma).
 * However, Chance was once again activated, perhaps by Pensiver or Hankvl, which, for Havres, obscured the fact that Hankvi would on-and-off become the Dictator until the moment when he reverted to execute Issus. Seeing this, the future that Havres could see then changed for Havres' knowledge, and, from that point on, he saw futures where Hankvi would either permanently revert to the Dictator or he would die (them being the many points when either Hankvi was about to die, or when timelines split off from Alpha). Either way, Havres knew that this would mean he could either once again manipulate TD, or he could merely take the power from Hankvi's corpse as he wished, so he allowed things to happen. However, the future continued to alter in Havres' Vision because of Chance; something that he did not understand until the Reckoning, when Hankvl (L) directly and visibly used Chance to "HS 6c00ff (bestow [Hankvi] with a future in which he would never fall to evil)".
 * From this point, Havres was unable to view the future regarding himself, Hankvi, Hankvl, Pensiver, or anyone that the last three had ever encountered, due to the amazing overflow of Chance magic since the Reckoning. This pushed Havres to act directly in trying to push Hankvi (instead of TD) down a path of evil and antagonism, as he had so wished to see the Dictator rise with again. Havres also made it his goal to kill Hankvl, believing that this would put an end to at least some of the "HS 620a0c (annoying magic that obscures [Havres'] Vision)". However, Hankvl reflectively "HS 6c00ff ([would] not allow [Havres] to lead [Hankvl's] descendant down a path of evil!)" From here, Havres then became the target of the gang.
 * All that would remain of Havres would be the Havres Hatchet
 * In the Alpha-Saved Timeline, HS 1952e5 (A)HS ff2600 (d)HS 662399 (Hankvi)'s presence made a great flow of Chance magic push forth, which obscured the changes that HS 1952e5 (A)HS ff2600 (d)HS 662399 (Hankvi) would make before HS 1952e5 (A)HS 4fd827 (s)HS 620a0c (Havres) even had a chance to realize it. Thus, he was slain without a second thought, and would never again be allowed to haunt the Hanks.
 * Now, ideas for Havres' feelings about Isevel, Issus, and Masa.
 * Isevel: Havres doesn't really care about Isevel, but he knows that he can use her interactions with TD as a tool for having him fall further down the path of evil. Havres feels that "HS 620a0c (their kismesistude brings our Dictator to more levels of hatred and destruction)", and thus pushes TD to interacting with her and getting ever more close to her. It's possible that he somehow foresaw/felt that Isevel would lead to him (Hankvi) getting his memories back (In Alpha-Doomed and SigmaTwo) and half-reverting back to the Dictator, thus making him "HS 620a0c (at least half as glorious a Dictator as he could possibly be)". The connection of Aserik was an attempt at further tying TD with Isevel, and also to know that it would be a benefit to the Dictatorship. Isevel doesn't like Havres at all, though; Isevel isn't informed enough to know all that Havres is up to, but she's smart enough to know that Havres is no good for any of her friends, and even for the Dictator.
 * Issus: Havres is slightly indifferent towards Issus. He knows that they can also lead Hankvi down a path of evil, as evidenced from the fact that they aren't the best person, have Hank falling head-over-heels for them, and has reverted Hank to TD once. However, Issus isn't naturally clashing or evil-leading with Hankvi, so Havres works subtly just to influence some things into leading Hankvi into an attempted descent sometimes in Gamma. Havres resents the ghost of Issus for helping Hankvi out sometimes in Alpha-Doomed and other timelines, though. Issus doesn't really have a realization of Havres' existence, though, if they were to meet, they would likely not approve of Havres' attempts of leading Hankvi to evil, and would much rather prefer to live with him and Chariel in a simple life. (Even so, Havres' lies could work to tempt them into believing that Havres' working things out the way he wants would give their family all better lives... even if this isn't entirely true, Havres could spin it that way since he's such a HS 609 (deceit duke).)
 * Masa: Though it didn't start for a while, Havres came to despise Masa. He realized that Masa was practically Isevel's opposite; while Isevel could lead TD down a path of further evil, Masa could bring Hank to a path of redemption and goodness. Havres once said that "HS 620a0c (Masa is to Hankvl as Isevel is to myself)", perhaps hinting that the both of them are trying to push Hankvi towards a girl who will lead him down a path they prefer for him. Havres encourages TD against trusting or liking Masa, and lies to him after giving him the Havres Hatchet by saying "HS 620a0c (the cyan maiden was the one who damaged you so; but I forced her to rebuild you)" and "HS 620a0c (she took pride in defacing your Dictatorship. I almost found it horrid)". And, well, as Masa puts it, "HS 09aaff (Havres isn't exactly my cup of tea, either)". She sees that Havres is trying to do all he can to make Hankvi a monster or take advantage of him, so she does all she can to protect Hank from Havres.
 * In Delta, Havres only saw Desmin as lowly... lowblood, I guess; nothing really important enough for him to note. Though, it's possible that Havres just doesn't exist in this timeline, for some reason...
 * In Iota, Havres could likely try to push more for Hankvi to actually commit some of the crimes that are going on and revert back to TD, or perhaps just act to make him die so that he could take the Karma Fragments (and perhaps also the Axe of Chaos). However, this would likely be impossible to do upon Hankvi becoming a Nox-Lux.
 * Kappa was a timeline that Havres originally saw Hankvi dying in. Due to the fact that mortals aren't bound by prophecies, it was changed, and thus averted (perhaps without being obscured?). However, since Kappa follows suit with such events, Havres plans to just take the power he can from the rest of Hankvi and move on.
 * Nu-Havres could perhaps lead Nr. 263995 to restart the reign, if he/it is not cured or killed off. This would probably be the most ideal situation for Havres that doesn't involve Hankvi permanently being the Dictator.
 * SigmaTwo timeline has quite some potential for Havres. I'm not sure if the ideas for SFANB storyline are all solidified, though I kind of wanted to suggest that Havres (and, potentially, SGRUB Gamma's First Guardian partial-Havres and TD's Havressprite) gets involved with it all. Havres (and the other two Havres') could be there trying to work out a way to make Hankvi fall to evil once more, though their Vision(s) (possibly not the First Guardian's vision) is obscured by all the Chance magic present in the session. If anything, Havres would likely try to manipulate the Page of Chance when he's to make his Choice ... and likely tries to have him make the "wrong Choice".
 * As a thought, perhaps SigmaTwoHankvl (L) could be prototyped with Hankvi's (I) sprite, to mirror the potential Havressprite idea. If we still want Hankvl to appear in the SFANB Session as a non-sprite entity, then we could have SigmaOneHankvl come in.
 * Possibility: SigmaOne-Masa and SigmaOne-Hankvl come from SigmaOne to SigmaTwo in order to try and help save/"guide" Hankvi for the better.
 * Possible Aserik inclusion ideas:
 * What if Aserik somehow ended up tagging along with Murtaw and Isevel before they met with Hankvi? Not exactly sure how Aserik is supposed to tie into the whole story, but this could be a possibility for things. Aserik could possibly mistake Murtaw and Isevel for her parents, though Murtaw could deny this in knowing that Hankvi is his only descendant/dancestor. From this, Aserik would want to meet her "father" Hank/TD and would possibly join them.
 * Aserik could possibly have gone with Zekrys through the Karma Portal and tried to attack Hankvi/one of his friends during the Reckoning earlier than the Alternian invasion would have occurred, so as to ensure that Zekrys would be the one to kill Hankvi. In doing this, they are in one of the player's house when they transport into the SFANB Incipisphere, and thus they get involved with the whole weird deal. Aserik would likely play out similarly to Alpha-Doomed and learn that Hankvi is her "one-tier ancestor", and then join him in his quest. This could also possibly lead to an Aseriksprite/Zekryssprite